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Some corrections officials are doubling down on training to prevent a possible terror attack.  It's something Putnam County Sheriff Howard Sills and Macon-Bibb County Sheriff David Davis have thought a lot about in his department. 

We kick off our week of coverage of Savannah’s Stopover Music Festival with a Georgia Playlist from one of the artists performing. 

Anna Chandler of the Savannah-based band COEDS picks two songs from Atlanta’s Cat Power and The Gerbils of Athens.

Authoritarianism In American Politics

Mar 7, 2016
Michael Vadon

Donald Trump is an unlikely candidate for president. He has no real political experience and endorses extremist views. Yet, the GOP frontrunner has had success with voters across all demographic lines. Political scientists point to the rise in authoritarianism in American politics as the driver of Trump’s success. 

Death Café | Trump’s Triumph in Georgia | The Breakroom

Mar 4, 2016
Linda Chen / On Second Thought

What is it about Donald Trump that made so many Georgia Republicans vote for him? We learn about a club that meets once a month to eat cake and talk about death. And the Breakroom is in the house, talking about weddings in the water and Atlanta's cat cafe. 

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We kick off a new series called "No Notes" where Celeste Headlee interviews a mystery guest. She talks with one of the most familiar voices in the world.  We also talk with an actor who holds the world record for playing monsters and aliens, even if he sometimes doesn't speak at all.  And we bid goodbye this weekend to one of the most successful dramas in PBS history. 

Super Tuesday Recap | Racism in the Classroom | Waffle House

Mar 2, 2016
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Voters across the country placed their votes for the presidential nominee yesterday. The Guardian US reporter Richard Wolffe has been following the election and tells us about Super Tuesday’s winners and losers. 

We then look at a different kind of competition - baseball. Georgia Public Broadcasting's Leah Fleming has story about an Eagle Scout in Macon whose love for the sport has lead him to unearth Negro League history. 

Death Penalty | SEC Primary Approaches | Soul Man William Bell

Mar 2, 2016

The first of March is the all-important ‘SEC Primary’ for Georgia and six other Southern states. Candidates from both parties have been flooding Georgia with grass-roots efforts, campaign dollars, and in-person appearances. But after it’s all said and done, who will come away the big winners of the South? We talk with Georgia Public Broadcasting’s Bill Nigut and Emory Political Science Professor Andra Gillespie to get a preview of the primary before the final votes are cast.

Super Tuesday | Gender Gap | Superdelegates

Mar 1, 2016
Ida Mae Astute

For the presidential candidates, Georgia is high value territory. There are 76 Republican delegates up for grabs today and 102 Democratic delegates. We talk with Congressman John Lewis to answer some questions about this election season. 

The Best Lessons From Left Field, Vol. 1

Feb 29, 2016


It’s a Lessons From Left Field Special! Join us for a listen back to some of the best segments from our series that highlights interesting, quirky, unusual and unique classes taught around the state of Georgia.

Full Show - February 26, 2016

It’s a Lessons From Left Field Special! Join us for a listen back to some of the best segments from our series that highlights interesting, quirky, unusual and unique classes taught around the state of Georgia.

Studying Spike Lee | The Black Calhouns | Olympic Preparation

Feb 29, 2016

Filmmaker Spike Lee's large body of work that's earned him a Lifetime Achievement Award from the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences.  It's also inspired a new curriculum for a class at Morehouse College. Also, the daughter of Lena Horne traces her family history to Atlanta and we talk about the Georgia Track Club's preparations to get several athletes to this summer's Olympic Games.

Full Show - February 25, 2016

Unsung Heroes Of Macon Music | PIT Maneuver | Voter Turnout

Feb 24, 2016

Police officers have long used a controversial tactic to end car chases. It’s called precision immobilization technique, or PIT maneuver. Many departments restrict how and when this tactic can be used because it can be dangerous at higher speeds. The Georgia State Patrol does not have those policies. Freelance journalist Shaun Raviv recently wrote about the agency’s PIT policies, which has killed at least twenty-eight people in Georgia. Also, Otis Redding, the Allman Brothers and Little Richard are just a few of the top-notch musicians to get their professional start in Macon, Georgia.

Costs Of Religious Liberty | Loud Restaurants | Coal Ash Dumping

Feb 23, 2016

The Georgia Senate has approved a bill that, if passed in the House, will allow faith-based groups to refuse service to same-sex couples and LBGT citizens. Also, Atlanta is home to some of the best restaurants found in the Southeast, but to get your hands on some of that great food, you have to put up with an awful lot of noise. Plus, the citizens of Wayne County, GA are mulling over a plan by Republic Services to dump thousands of tons of coal ash into the wetlands.

Full Show - February 23, 2016

Writer and performer Mike Schlitt has made it his mission to start an honest dialogue about American democracy. His traveling, one-man show, “Patriot Act,” tells a concentrated history of U.S. politics with some comic relief mixed in. Schlitt joins us to talk about why he calls the show “career suicide” and what he hopes people take away.

"Healthy" Soda Marketing | Super Bowls & Cities | Tasers On Campus

Feb 22, 2016

Soda companies have devised a defense against sin taxes and criticism about the health effects of their products. Duane Stanford of Beverage Digest tells us how the Atlanta-based Coca-Cola Company has evolved in its marketing to attract more health conscious consumers. Plus, is hosting a Super Bowl worth it economically for host cities? And one lawmaker hopes to convince those who don't want guns on public college campuses to allow students to carry tasers and other forms of stun guns.

Full Show - February 22, 2016

Magnolia Crossing, an apartment complex in Cobb County, has recently been closed down in favor of clearing the land for higher-end commercial property. While the city claims that the renovation is a community investment, the continuing loss of low-cost housing continues to be a prevalent issue. We talk to Nathaniel Smith, who is the CEO of the Partnership for Southern Equity, about what can be done to assist low-income households with finding reliable living conditions.

About a week and a half ago, Beyoncé took the nation by storm with her music video for the song, “Formation.” It evokes images of Hurricane Katrina, unrest in Ferguson, Missouri, and the Black Lives Matter movement. It's also sparked a massive conversation about race issues in this country - and revealed divisions that go deeper than black and white. Armstrong State University professor Regina Bradley, Aurielle Marie of the Atlanta based organization, “It’s Bigger Than You,” Cornell University PhD student J.

Bees play an invaluable role in our eco-system, but they are slowly dying out as a species. In order to further integrate bees into a city environment, the Urban Bee Project at Georgia Tech hopes to create new homes for these vital insects while educating students on ecological responsibility. We talk to Georgia Tech’s Jennifer Leavey, who is director of the project, about the initiative and what results she hopes to achieve over the length of the project. Plus, in 1967, Kathleen Cleaver joined the Black Panther Party after leaving the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee in Atlanta.

Sevendust Goes To The Grammys | Dangerously Lonely | ICE Raids

Feb 15, 2016

After 20 years together, Atlanta metal band Sevendust received its first Grammy nomination for Best Metal Performance this year. They’ll be at the award ceremony on Monday night, but first, lead singer Lajon Witherspoon tells us about making metal music in the South and what it feels like to be in the running for music’s top honor. Valentine’s Day can be an especially lonely time for some people. But chronic loneliness can have adverse health effects and be just as bad for you as smoking, obesity, and sitting too long.

The Breakroom | Karen White's 'Grit Lit' | A Timeless Love

Feb 12, 2016

Karen White writes fiction, mostly mysteries. But she likes to call her work "grit lit," a genre of work dedicated to stories told from the perspectives of Southern women. White is a featured author at his year's Savannah Book Festival and she talks with us about her latest work. J.B .and Lynette Tuttle of Savannah, Georgia married each other 72 years ago. Now in their 90's, they're both retired and living in a nursing home. While they may have slowed down, their love for each other hasn't.

Dead Wake | Rise & Shine | A Real Southern Cook | Zombie Psychology

Feb 11, 2016

Why are we attracted to gory shows about zombies? Psychologist Travis Langley, author of “The Walking Dead Psychology,” says the popularity of dark shows reflects our feelings about the state of our society. He joins host Celeste Headlee to talk about viewers’ deep love for undead characters. Plus. Dora Charles never received any formal training in cooking, but she worked in Paula Deen's kitchen for over twenty years. She helped develop many of the recipes that made Deen's Savannah restaurant, The Lady & Sons, a culinary destination.

CDC Speaks On Pregnancy & Alcohol | Ag Outlook | Malcolm Mitchell

Feb 10, 2016

Georgia was one of many states in the midst of a farm crisis thirty years ago. It was the worst since the Great Depression. Almost 300,000 farms nationwide faced financial failure by the mid-1980s. Farmers have come a long way since then, but is our agricultural climate stable enough that it couldn't happen again? Zippy Duvall is a Georgia farmer who recently took over as president of the American Farm Bureau. He gives host Celeste Headlee about his agricultural outlook.

The Georgia State Senate passed a bill last year that bars local governments from banning certain types of dogs. The measure never got a vote in the House, but it's a sign of how often breed-specific bans are cropping up in Georgia. Host Celeste Headlee talks about the effectiveness of these policies with Emily Patterson-Kane of the American Veterinary Medical Association.

Most people take cough syrup or ibuprofen when they're sick. But the Gullah Geechee people used to gather an herb called "life everlasting" and boil it into a tea to settle coughs and congestion. Gullah Geechee culture is endangered as population numbers dwindle and land disputes threaten their way of life. That includes their medicinal traditions.

The Breakroom | Georgia Playlist | How Iowa Reflects GA Voters

Feb 5, 2016

After a barn-burner of a race in Iowa, the nation’s eyes shift toward New Hampshire before slowly making their way southward. The SEC primary is less than a month away and Georgia voters are preparing to play a huge role in the country’s 2016 presidential decision. Host Celeste Headlee talks with Atlanta Journal-Constitution reporter Greg Bluestein about the results in Iowa and how they could reflect the mindset of Georgia voters. Plus, keyboardist Chuck Leavell has played all over the world with music legends like The Rolling Stones, Eric Clapton, and The Allman Brothers.

What celebrity sightings might you be in store for this weekend? That all depends on what film projects are taking place around the state. Host Celeste Headlee gets an update on who’s currently on set from Jennifer Brett of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution’s Buzz Blog. Plus, quarterbacks Cam Newton and Peyton Manning are set to do football battle at this Sunday’s Super Bowl. But outside of the game, one local writer argues that Newton, a Georgia native and star of the Carolina Panthers, is also redefining what it means to be a real Southern gentleman.

The Weeping Time | Family Secrets, Shame | Mental Health Courts

Feb 3, 2016

Four years ago, one in every six inmates in the state prison system was mentally ill. Since then, the state has established 25 accountability courts to break the link between mental illness and crime. Host Celeste Headlee speaks with Dekalb Superior Court Judge Asha Jackson and Macon Superior Court Judge Verda Colvin about how mental health courts work and their effectiveness. Also, Georgia has some of the harshest immigration policies in the country, but does it help or hurt the economy?

John Smoltz | Sanders' Rise In The Race | Campus Cyber Crime Lab

Feb 2, 2016

In the 2016 Presidential race, it was expected that Hillary Clinton would lock up the Democratic nomination early and decisively. One year ago, no reputable political analyst would have thought Bernie Sanders would come within a breath of winning the Iowa caucus. But he did. For registered Democrats in Georgia, their vote might actually matter more in the primary race than anyone expected. Host Celeste Headlee talks with Georgia State Rep. LaDawn Jones, who is the state director for the Bernie Sanders campaign.

From the Atkins diet to Weight Watchers to the Paleo diet, it feels as if we’re inundated with diet studies all the time. Host Celeste Headlee speaks with Dr. Laurence Sperling, a cardiologist at Emory, about which diets to trust and which ones to avoid. Also, while concussions and other sports-related injuries might grab the headlines, it’s the mental health of student players that’s the top concern of the National Collegiate Athletic Association. The NCAA recently released its guidelines on how to manage mental health issues in college athletes.

The Breakroom | EV Car Sales | Emory Students Crack Cold Case

Jan 29, 2016

On yesterday's show, we talked about a tumultuous time in Georgia politics when the state had three active governors in the late 1940's. That was ultimately resolved in a Democratic primary in September 1948. One of the Georgians who voted in that primary was Isaiah Nixon, a black man who lived with his family in Montgomery County. After casting his vote, he was shot by two white men and later died. Students at Emory University have been investigating the case as part of a class looking at cold cases during the Jim Crow era.

Three GA Governors | Race & Police Recruits | Year Of GA Music

Jan 28, 2016

Calls for reforming the nation's police departments have grown louder in recent years following several high-profile police shootings, particularly those involving African-American fatalities. In general, police forces are more diverse than they were just a few decades ago. According to the U.S. Department of Justice, about 25% of police officers belong to a racial or ethnic minority, but many people say that's not enough. Why are so many police departments across the nation facing racial imbalances, and what can be done to ensure they reflect the communities they're protecting?